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i know that they want to stop alienating us by doing something "down to earth". but most guys that only have a 2 car garage to begin with would need to re-mortgage their house to get $17g's i built a frame, dropped a body onto it, rebuilt an chev 350, popped in an sm465 trans, with a an np205 t-case
put a 12-bolt, rear and dana 40 front. and get this all for under $2,000!! once it is all shiny and done i will be far less than $5k

(here is a more detailed thread about it: http://broncoii.org/forum/index.php?topic=9152.0)
a cehvy frame that i shortened 41" out of, and fabricated new body mounts onto
a bronco II body that i bough from a junkyard, and set onto the frame.
and a chev 350 with vortec heads, comp cam, and 12:1 pistons

i wish that they would be more realistic when they say "budget build"
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I totally agree man, I have about $7000 total into my truck over the years of growing it has gone through and it has had no issues keeping up with a lot of Big $$$ Jeeps around here.

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so you agree that the word "budget" should be like $8,000 or less? give me 8 grand cash and i would build you something awesome.

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I agree completely, I do not wheel with a lot of guys that can pull that out of their butts in one shot to do a build, never mind $17K. Most of us have worked our rigs over a number of years to the points they are at and some have just made do with grabbing another cheap relatively stock rig to get them through another year of having fun. I would like to see a build where they slowly improve a vehicle in stages like we would have to.

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I'm glad to see people doing projects like this. I've been thinking of doing the same thing, but I'm not sure where to start. I want to build a CJ8 that I can take hunting and still haul my camp trailer and all my crap. I've have a few donors but not sure which is best. I even started thinking about buying a frame and building it up similar to the Extreme Scrambler project, but it'd take years to build because of the cost!

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Yeah I built mine for around $15,000 That includes the price of the vehicle when it was still worth something 7 years ago. And all the "fixes" I've done over the years.

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Budget is just such a realitive term...someone could have a 'budget' of $50,000...i prefer the projects like cheap jeep or 5 grand cherokee...right now i have only about $300 into my j10 but i have also put in hundreds of hours so far and i haven't began my drivetrain swap yet...if anybody has any ideas, tips or warnings i would love to hear them...here is what i just picked up for my '79 J10 ; GM big 14 bolt rear end, Dana 60 front with kingpin steering, NP 205 transfer case, Muncie SM465 tranny, and the crown jewel, a high torque 454.

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i too am running the sm465/np205 combination, you will love it!!! if you get the bellhousing from a mid-'80s chev truck it has the bracket for the slave cylinder, and you can run a hydraulic clutch.......so worth it. are you running leaf-springs or 4-link? or 3 link with a panhard bar?

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I'll be starting with leaf springs just to keep it simple...all of my parts are comming out of a 1981 chevy full ton...my only concerns so far are 1. the weight difference between the stock 360 and the 454 will i have to do anything to the front suspension? and 2. the axles i got are geared 3.73 which is high for off road but great for highway...this truck will see alot of both...should i gear the axles down or use a doubler ( another stick in the cab would be cool ) if i use a doubler what kind...remember this j10 is truley a low dollar build ( the truck plus all the new parts has only cost me $300 so far...yes three hundred dollars ) plus alot of hours and tons of wheeling and dealing...any input you have would be great...thanx

Robb Szwarc said:
i too am running the sm465/np205 combination, you will love it!!! if you get the bellhousing from a mid-'80s chev truck it has the bracket for the slave cylinder, and you can run a hydraulic clutch.......so worth it. are you running leaf-springs or 4-link? or 3 link with a panhard bar?

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the sm465 has a 6.5:1 first gear, so using that will be like having a doubler....with another doubler. you will still have a lower crawl ratio than the "budget build" cj that they are doing now that has a doubler because for some weird reason "we voted" to use a weaker, transmission that has a much taller first gear. and the big block will make a lot of torque, and torque loves taller gears, thats why rock crawlers run little import motors in them a lot because at 5.14:1 diff gears, and a t-case, and granny low trans, and a doubler they are revving to like 5,000 rpm (where a little motor makes it's power) a big block just doesn't love 5,000+ rpm, it will do fine but it will just suck a lot of gas, and wear out wuicker, as to your question about the weight, you are using the chevy springs right? even if you're not the weight difference won't be enough to bother you at less than 100lbs difference, that is less than having a person in car

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love the body hoist in your pic

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thank you, it worked well. two harbor freight cherry pickers and some lumber got the job done.

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hey CAMMEDDRZ! guess who ;)

you must remember they are in CA, where they buy $20 16oz coffees and $300 jeans. for the rest of (with are $1.05 coffee and $20 jeans) we can do the same thing for 1/3 the price. :P

but really my BII I build (85 2.8 auto 4x4) cost me less than $700 to get to wheeling state. $1,500 would make it great.

silly people, but then they never did try to build a bII.

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